A worthy 9/11 remembrance 

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1. Totally agree with you Walt and not bloody likely.

   Quite frankly I am sick and tired of the persistent tripe and dribble on our Australian TV screens, mainstream corporate and social media every year for 25 years and in between on the World Trade Centre Twin Towers event re-hash, and the constant drift in political analysis and American propaganda.

   Yesterday, one Australian media outlet, might have been the Australian or Network 10 were purporting that in 2001 we were all thinking we were witnessing World War 3. What a load of inflated retrospective crap. We were witnessing a profound and treacherous terrorist attack, and as horrifying as it was, no-one I recollect or in the media were framing it as an outbreak of WW3 at the time. It is this gross misrepresentation and lie that distorts the record, history, sensationalising this 25 years later to justify or twist our minds that America’s war on the rest of the world ever since has been in anyway remotely justified. This is what normalises vengeance, illegal wars, crimes against humanity and genocide now routinely practiced by countries like the USA and Israel; and if they can get away with it why not others?

   I have no interest in being aggressively bombarded and subjected to the US fucked up narrative of ‘poor us’ when we are faced with atrocities in the world perpetrated by America and Israel, and with America’s blessing and military support and supply of weapons of mass destruction, and State sponsored terrorism in other countries around the world.

   All our TV channels including the ABC and SBS carried this pernicious reminder and combative theme in the past week, but the worst were Ten and 7/Prime. No doubt Sky also but I never watch their perverse crap. If the USA want to fly an army of drones to mimic the Twin Towers on US screens so be it, but don’t bloody well celebrate it on our TV screens in Australia, while simultaneously conducting genocide across the Middle East, chest thumping like political apes and holding the rest of the world to ransom with trade wars, tariffs, military air and naval displays blocking the straits of Hormuz, and blaming every other country for the shit America sheds on itself and everyone else – ‘we’ whoever we are, are not to blame for America’s domestic or foreign policy, that badge solely belongs to America.

   The USA is a malicious toxic pimple on humanity, a rampant red-necked political and corporate bully unable to protect its own citizens from guns manufacturers, military mercenaries and the excessive abuse of its own politicians, government exploitation, corruption and moral bankruptcy.

   While we wait to see if America can be bought again by a fist full of laundered dollars.

2. Once again this 11/9, the USA (Undemocratic Sewer of Apartheid) recognises that self-serving exceptionalism is not recognised by all the other persons on this Earth.

   Obviously the Americans have adopted the English habit of memorialising the great military disasters, the Charge of the Light Brigade, yet fail to question why they occurred.

   Playing Devils Advocate for a post, I suggest that the Twin Towers demolition using two international airliners and the attack on the US Pentagon Crime Centre that was frustrated by a few committed American citizens, ranks as one of the greatest military actions in Western history.

   Think Dein Bien Phou when the French were chased out of Vietnam, think the Maccabees (Jewish partisans) who regularly beat up the occupying Roman armies, think Mao and the conquest of now PRC China.

   This was an example of a dedicated group saying ”Enough bullying!!” to the avaricious American corporations and corrupt politicians interfering in the internal affairs of over 80 foreign countries since 1945.

   The consequences were expected ….. citizens impacted by the dust created by the collapse of the Twin Towers have been denied support by all levels of government in America, until the new NY Mayor Mamdami released the documents being hidden to prevent legal action against the US government for failing to secure the air space. (Naughty socialist, considering the poor & down trodden over the rich & powerful).

   Then on 12/9 the only airliner flying in NY air space was carrying the whole bin Laden family out of the US with government support and approval.

   I will leave the too long conspiracy excuses to others and shall not respond to such baits, because I have read the evidence.

3. The biggest victim of 9/11 was the truth. I was in Annapolis Maryland (not far from New York) the day it all went down.
   Search “In plane sight” Clearly shows no airliner hit the Pentagon confirmed by witnesses.

   The crash in Penselvania? Where is the wreckage? and that scar on the ground Google earth showed it was there prior to 9/11

   “Architects and Engineers for 911 truth” and professional pilots have exposed the whole bullshit.

   The buildings were designed for impact by aircraft.

   Even Trump said planes couldn’t have taken the buildings down and of course there was Building Seven that wasn’t hit by a plane or wreckage and just mysteriously fell down.

   Wake up people we all know who was behind it and why.

4. Spot on Thomas Brookes. There are reams of studies/articles/books that tell how/why/who was involved in this set up.
   The biggest issue is that the “world” believes what they were told and the complicit MSM as well as all 1st world countries were and are the amplifiers for this con.

5. Yes, indeed NEC.

   As usual, there’s no prosecutions at the top.

   We no longer hear anything about what Osama Bin Laden was pissed-off about (not that he was responsible for the 9/11 attacks). He was a highly educated renegade against the arch hypocrisy of the ‘others’ of his Bin Laden family controlling the Bin Laden empire.

   And of course, those ‘others’ were in league with the US Bush family, together jointly vested in and controlling the largest arms trading enterprise in the world; The Carlyle Group.

   After 9/11, for the USA, Osama became the risky renegade who knew too much.

   And so it goes on, and on, and on …..

   
   
   
   

6. @ Thomas Brookes: Uhm ….. an edit correction; ”The buildings were designed for impact by aircraft.”

   This was about the only eventuality that WAS NOT tested after construction of the World Trade Centre.

7. Jon Chesterton,

   thanks. Agreed, word for word (although I haven’t seen the actual tv segment/newspaper article, there has been an endless occurance of similar propaganda over the past 25 years.)

   When a fortnight after the attack we were being shown vision of the airplane crashing into one of the towers, on repeat, we should’ve been asking ourselves, how does brainwashing work again? Has there been in living history an event where 3000 people died in a foreign country, but Australian tv networks and mainstream media solemnly recognized its anniversary, replete with the airplane footage on loop, every year for the next 10 years and more in some cases.

   If you need an example of how the billionaire class keep us fighting amongst ourselves, focussed on some powerless minority (muslims in this case) so that we don’t notice how they’re ripping out a disproportionate amount of wealth from our country, that is arguably one.

8. My adult son and I were watching the late news on Channel Ten and we saw this event play out live. Sandra Sully crossed to New York to report on footage just coming in that was interpreted as a plane accident. The single smoking tower was on view in the background while she speculated about how such an accident could happen.
   We then saw the second plane embed itself in the second tower, while the news broadcast continued and the commentary was oblivious to what the audience had seen. In our lounge room, we were telling her to “turn around, there was a second plane”. My son and I realised that this could not be an accident. The collapse of the first tower was another astounding event that we saw live.
   By this time, Channel Ten’s sportscasters had taken over the broadcast of this strange set of events in New York, and the subsequent collapse of the second building took place.
   Anyone who disputes the events that took place in New York is wrong. The other plane crashes, one into the Pentagon, and the other into the field in Pennsylvania, seem to have allowed more room for speculation.

   The worst thing about it was the USA taking the view that this should lead to military action. It would have been better to treat it as a major crime, which it was. It would have been far better to have criminal investigations, and proper trials of those found responsible, rather than never ending wars in Afghanistan and the Middle East using the tragedies as pretext.

9. 11/9 did happen and I think the conspiracy theories are diversions from consideration of WHY that even occurred.

   Look to something like Gaza to glimpse at that really drove it. Generations in the making..

10. Paul Walter, exactly.

    There was a lengthy expose in the The Age Weekender, before, I believe just before, 9/11 that raised a compelling argument that the USA was a rogue state.

    After 9/11, pretty near any such analysis disappeared from Western mainstream media for decades.

11. The 25th 9/11 anniversary would have been better observed if we had the release of all relevant CIA files on the co-option of Saudi Arabian nationals and the assistance provided by Mossad. As painful as this may be for both the survivors and the CIA America will never heal from this trauma until the truth is revealed and the culprits are dealt with.

12. @ Thommo: Uhm ….. I am getting worried ….. I find myself ”reluctantly” agreeing with more of your comments. Now all we need is for Australian voters to abandon the traditional self-serving parties and straight-up, elect an Australian Greens government for the benefit of the voters.

13. NEC,
    me too.

14. Twenty-five years after 9/11, perhaps the most important question is no longer only what happened on that day, but what the world chose to do with the meaning of that day.

    The attacks killed thousands of civilians and produced a legitimate demand for accountability. But a terrorist attack and a military strategy are not the same thing. The strategic question begins when a state decides how to translate trauma into policy.

    The post-9/11 era demonstrated the enormous gap that can exist between tactical destruction and strategic success. Military campaigns can destroy organisations, remove leaders, occupy territory and spend extraordinary amounts of money while still failing to produce a durable political order.

    Afghanistan is perhaps the clearest field-level example. Two decades of military intervention demonstrated that superior technology and firepower cannot substitute for political legitimacy, institutional resilience, local ownership and a sustainable political settlement. The eventual collapse of the internationally supported Afghan government in 2021 forced a fundamental reassessment of what “victory” had actually meant.

    This is why the cost of the post-9/11 wars should not be measured only in dollars or casualty figures. There is also an institutional and strategic cost: societies become accustomed to permanent emergency, military solutions become normalised, and temporary security objectives can gradually become open-ended geopolitical projects.

    There is another lesson.

    Memory itself becomes part of strategy. The memory of 9/11 shaped public fear, political legitimacy and national security doctrine for a generation. But when collective trauma becomes permanently connected to military policy, there is a danger that remembrance stops asking “what happened?” and begins asking only “who must be punished?”

    A more useful strategic framework separates four questions: What happened? Who was responsible? What political objective should follow? And what evidence demonstrates that the chosen strategy actually achieved that objective?

    Those questions are important not only for understanding 9/11, but for understanding Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Iran and the wider post-2001 security order.

    The deepest lesson of 9/11 may therefore be this:

    A nation can honour its dead without allowing their memory to become a permanent mandate for war.

    Twenty-five years later, the real measure of remembrance is not how loudly we remember the violence, but whether we have learned enough to prevent the next generation from inheriting the same cycle.

    Wahidullah Noorzai | NIDA

15. W Noorzai continues to offer lines for deduction, investigation, pondering and I enjoy mixing reflection with old recalls. May we all reorientate attitudes if and when felt necessary. Old, buggered, one fingertyping often, but.., there is still a world to save, improve, embrace. My promising grandkids, and everyone’s, deserve that. ( I saw the second plane hit, on late night TV and later had a dream in which shadowy figures, rather like Cherokee, Sioux, Mexicans, were weeping, perhaps at eternal waste and futility.)

16. Wahidullah Noorzai, welcome the The AIMN. I enjoyed reading your comments: all offered solid arguments.

17. Wahidullah Noorzai,

    Contrary to what the politicians say, things are never for the benefit of people dragged into these so called wars. There have always been shabby and mendacious reasons why the brutalities are really applied unilaterally.

    The concerns of Iraqis, Aghanis and Palestinians, for example, are not considered, let along the people in so called “failed states” in Africa and such places where folk starve to death thru being bankrupted by the West..

    In Vietnam, a million Vietnamese were wiped out by the Americans to “save” them from “communism”. Not that these people affected had any say in the genocide…better red than dead ?